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5 stars ANSWERED on Sat 19 Jan 2008 - 11:38 pm UTC by davidsarokin

Question: Bacteria in a bottle

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Asked by noclue on Sat 19 Jan 2008 - 9:44 pm UTC:

So we all know that after a freshly opened bottle of spring water has been
drunken from, it's only a matter of time before evidence of bacteria growth
begins to appear (ie. smell)

My question is; which factors can cause the bacteria to grow faster or
slower.

Now I understand this is a fairly broad question so I will narrow it down
to precisely what I am looking for...

One main factor I am curious about is if the cap is resealed after the
bottle has been drunken from, will it affect the bacteria growth?

Additionally how much of an influence the surrounding temperature has.

So to lay it out, the perfect answer would include an approximate time-line
(or chart) to include 2 main scenarios (cap on vs cap off) and 3 sub
(temperature based) scenarios; a fridge (1-5 C), room temperature (18-23
C), and sitting in the sun (30-35 C).

You can assume in all scenarios the bottle is left half full of water, and
there is no abnormal levels of bacteria in the person's saliva.

This one should keep you guys busy but I would certainly appreciate a
answer, so please let me know if it is necessary to set the price higher.

Thank you.

Uclue Researcher 5 stars Answer by Researcher davidsarokin on Sat 19 Jan 2008 - 11:38 pm UTC:

noclue,

Do I have a study for you!

An enterprising high school student won a national science contest with a
study titled:  "Bottled water: how safe is it?", which was eventually
published in 2005 as a formal scientific paper in the journal, Water
Environment Research:


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&uid=16381148&cmd=showdetailview&indexed=google


As you can see from the above abstract, the goals of the study are right on
target:

"The objectives of this study were to examine the effects of time and
storage temperature on bacterial growth and characterize the types of
microorganisms contaminating bottled water after drinking once from the
bottle..."

and the findings show significant bacterial growth at all temperatures over
the course of 48 hours, though colder temperatures resulted in markedly
slower growth:

"The bacterial count in bottled water increased dramatically, from less
than 1 colony per milliliter (col/mL) to 38,000 col/mL over 48 hours of
storage at 37 degrees C. Bacterial growth was markedly reduced at cold
temperatures (refrigeration) compared with room temperature, with 50% fewer
bacterial colonies in 24 hours and 84% fewer colonies in 48 hours."


I was able to read the full study via a subscription database, and I would
encourage you to request a copy via interlibrary loan (your local public
librarian should be able to help you).  I can't quote at length due to
copyright restrictions, but the study involved the following:

--store-bought bottled water was tested after taking a single sip from the
bottle

--bottled water was initially free of bacteria

--after a single sip, bacterial counts were made at 2, 8, 24 and 48 hours

--with water kept at 37 degrees C (body temperature) bacterial counts
stayed low for approximately two hours, then began a rapid increase

--the increase was about a hundred-fold between 8 and 24 hours

--not surprisingly, the colder the temperature, the slower the growth,
although growth was signficiant even at refrigerator temperatures.

--after 24 hours, even refrigerated water had bacterial counts in excess of
limits recommended by some health authorites

--after 48 hours, refrigerated water had, on average, one-sixth the
bacteria counts of room temperature water



The study also tested tap water under the same conditions, and found it to
be markedly resistant to bacterial growth -- much more so than bottled
water -- probably due to chlorination of tap water.


=========================

You also asked about cap on/cap off as a factor.

The study I mentioned didn't examine this as a variable, nor did I see any
other studies that address this question.  However, as a microbiologist
myself, I can make an informed guess.  

The presence or absence of a cap on a half-filled water bottle probably
wouldn't make any difference to the amount of bacterial growth in the first
48 hours or so.  That's because the amount of air in the bottle would be
very large, relative to the amount of gasses either consumed or released by
the growing bacteria.  

Picture yourself alone in a movie theater.  As you inhale and exhale, your
breathing has very little effect on the composition of gasses in the
theater as a whole, since you are only one person in a very large space.

However, fill up the theater with a large crowd, and it's a different
story.  The same holds true with the bacteria in a bottle.  As bacterial
growth becomes so robust as to be clearly visible, then it will begin to
affect the composition of gasses in the bottle.  At that point, it would
make a difference whether the bottle is capped or not, but it would be long
past the point where anyone would consider actually drinking from the
bottle. 


Hope that's the information your were looking for.  If there's anything
more I can do for you, please let me know by posting a Clarification.

Cheers,

David

Request for clarification by noclue on Sun 20 Jan 2008 - 12:08 am UTC:

Wow thank you for the quick response. Although something I would appreciate
clarification for, which I should have mentioned before, is I have no
reference for bacterial count; I have no knowledge of what would be
considered  a "safe" level.

Also, as a microbiologist, if I could have you opinion on one more common
scenario on this topic; taking a few sips of water from a bottle then
putting it on the night stand for the next morning, 

From what I understand (based on your report) within 8-10 hours time I
shouldn't be concerned of the bacterial level regardless if the cap is left
on or off?

Thank you.

Uclue Researcher Answer clarification by Researcher davidsarokin on Sun 20 Jan 2008 - 12:47 am UTC:

noclue,

>>I have no reference for bacterial count; I have no knowledge of what
would be considered  a "safe" level.<<

Welcome to the club!  Counting bacteria is tricky business, and even if
good counts are made, it's still tough saying whether there's a real risk
present, since there are so many different types of bacteria, some more
dangerous than others.  Also, some people are simply more susceptible than
others, especially if their immune system is compromised in any way.

What studies like this show is that (a) numerous types of bacteria are
present, and (b) they are able to grow and increase fairly rapidly.  

In the study I referenced, all the bacteria identified were part of typical
human flora, routinely present in saliva.  As such, they wouldn't present a
danger to most people, even after a day or two of growth.

However, the fact that conditions are conducive to bacterial growth does
mean that it's possible for some less benign organism to take hold, and to
grow just as rapidly.  That's probably a rare event -- and it wasn't
covered in the study I mentioned -- but it is certainly a possibility.

The study mentions that environmental groups in the US have recommended a
level of no more than 500 cols/ml  (colonies of bacteria per mililiter of
water) to be on the safe side.  It took about 24 hours or more to get to
that level in the study.  

>>if I could have you opinion on one more common scenario on this topic;
taking a few sips of water from a bottle then putting it on the night stand
for the next morning<<

I wouldn't hesitate at all to drink from an overnight bottle (and I've
certainly done it on many occasions).  However...that's me.  My wife
wouldn't touch it with a ten foot sterilized pole.  
 

Having said this, though, I'll also add that, like most people, I
occasionally suffer an upset stomach.  When it happens, I have absolutely
no idea what caused it.  Whether it has ever happened because of bacteria
that were introduced from a bottle of water left open overnight, I'll never
know.  

But it's certainly not outside the realm of possibility.  

Let me know if there's anything more I can do for you on this.

David

5 stars Accepted and rated by noclue on Sun 20 Jan 2008 - 1:00 am UTC:

Excellent response time and explanation, Thank you!

P.S. My wife and I are the same way, a partial reason for my question in to
first place, it was just hilarious that you happened to bring it up.

5 stars Accepted and rated by noclue on Sun 20 Jan 2008 - 2:37 am UTC:


		
	

Uclue Researcher Comment by Researcher Roger Browne (eiffel) on Sun 20 Jan 2008 - 10:54 am UTC:

The interesting knol that I glean from this is that, from a bacterial point
of view, it's better to fill an old bottle with tap (chlorinated) water and
use that overnight, than to use a new bottle of bottled water.

Comment by User myoarin on Sun 20 Jan 2008 - 12:47 pm UTC:

Of course, one can avoid most of the risk (if there really is any) by not
drinking from the bottle, pouring the water into a glass instead.  The
bottle was sterilized before filling, also the top, protected by the cap,
so there are very few bacteria that could get in the bottle. 
Now you will say that the glass is contaminated.  True, but if you emptied
it, upon refilling it the next morning, any bacteria would be highly
diluted.

I have to wonder if one can get sick from a larger dose of bacteria from
one's own  - or spouse's -  saliva.

But don't trust me; I drink the tap water from Istanbul to Beijing with no
ill effects.

Myoarin

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