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Question: Is the house of the Pink Floyd Cover "A collection of great dance songs" still there

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Asked by joho123 on Wed 17 Sep 2008 - 9:57 am UTC:

Hi,

i was wondering if the house on the cover of the Pink Floyd Cover "A
collection of great dance songs" is still there. The Place where the photo
is in England, Dungeness, Kent. Can somebody help me with this question and
maybe can send me a resent photo of the house?

Uclue Researcher Request for clarification by Researcher answerfinder on Wed 17 Sep 2008 - 11:56 am UTC:

Dear joho123,

I know Dungeness as I used to go fishing off the beach there. It has
changed over the years. It is a wind-swept low lying area of shingle by the
sea. Before the Nuclear Power Station was built, in past years Dungeness
consisted of a few wooden huts and converted railway carriages lived in by
fisherman.

Most of the fishermen left in the mid 20th century and many of their houses
fell into ruin. In the past two decades many of them have now been restored
and converted into holiday homes. One of them became famous as the home of
Derek Jarman the film director.

All of this preamble leads up to me saying that the house on the album
cover is clearly derelict or in need of t.l.c. and so may have been
renovated and changed its appearance. I have been unable to find a
reference to which house it is.
http://www.musicpilgrimages.com/articl/9277.php

However, looking through Flikr I have found one possible candidate. I have
compared the Pink Floyd image and this one I think it is a good match. This
image is taken Jan 13 2008.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adrianhilton/2193558434/
Another view here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/82194366@N00/467417883/

This is another similar cottage but does not have the tall window on the
side of the house.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/britishmm/2405433846/

Of course, it could be another one but there is no image available for it.
Most of the other houses use black weatherboarding and are of a different
style
Prospect Cottage was the home of film maker Derek Jarman
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24925657@N05/2820245879/
Holiday home
http://www.flickr.com/photos/barryslemmings/299728494/

There are no more than 20-25 houses in this area. Sadly the location is a
little too far from me to go and check for you.

What do you think?

Phil
answerfinder

Uclue Researcher Comment by Researcher bowler on Wed 17 Sep 2008 - 5:37 pm UTC:

"The Hipgnosis design team did the cover under the pseudonym TCP after
falling out with Roger Waters a few years earlier"

"Hipgnosis consisted primarily of Storm Thorgerson, Aubrey Powell, and
later, Peter Christopherson. The group dissolved in 1983, but Thorgerson
still works on album designs"

Both the above are from Wikipedia.

Official site of Storm Thorgerson:
http://www.stormthorgerson.com/

I thought this may be a lead to possible discover the exact location of the
house.  There doesn't seem to be any contact information but perhaps a
researcher can locate it.

Uclue Researcher Request for clarification by Researcher answerfinder on Wed 17 Sep 2008 - 6:38 pm UTC:

I've just noticed that the other image that I referred you to may be
possibly discounted.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/britishmm/2405433846/

You will see a thin brown line passing in front of this house. I never
noticed this earlier. I think that is the railway track for the Romney,
Hythe & Dymchurch Railway which is a 15-inch gauge working railway which
runs down to Dungeness. If this was the house used in the Pink Floyd album
then the dancers would be standing approximately on top of the railway line
(unless it has been air-brushed out).
http://www.rhdr.org.uk/rhdr/home_flash.html

Phil
answerfinder

Uclue Researcher Request for clarification by Researcher answerfinder on Thu 18 Sep 2008 - 8:04 am UTC:

I've done some more work on this. The buildings in the background from my
own knowledge is Battery Point which in the 1980s consisted of a few
bungalows and a public house. Since then there has been some new building
between Battery Point and the house which means that the view as shown on
the album is not longer there.

I have looked on Multi-map satellite images (clearer than Google) and using
Google Maps I have plotted out the possible location of the house in the
photograph and tried to line up the house seen on Flikr with Battery Point.


Distance is difficult to estimate on the photograph. If it is the house, it
would be 700 feet from this house to the buildings, and you will see that
it would be necessary to have air-brushed out a road. However, the camera
may be low enough to hide it the undergrowth.

You will need to zoom in on the map and click on all the icons to read my
comments.
http://tinyurl.com/4h295c

You'll see from the map that the alternative is that the house was further
down the road, nearer the sea, and has since been knocked down or altered
to such an extent that it cannot be identified from the air.

Hope this helps.

Phil
answerfinder

Question clarification by joho123 on Thu 18 Sep 2008 - 10:01 am UTC:

Great Answer, great Work. How can I pay?

Uclue Researcher 5 stars Answer by Researcher answerfinder on Thu 18 Sep 2008 - 10:14 am UTC:

john123,

I'm pleased you liked my research above. By placing this text here the
question will be shown as answered and you've paid.

Phil
answerfinder

5 stars Accepted and rated by joho123 on Thu 18 Sep 2008 - 11:00 am UTC:

Great Work

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