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Question: What sort of injury can a bear hug cause?

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Asked by happyengineer on Sun 22 Mar 2009 - 9:38 pm UTC:

I was giving my fiance one of my usual bear hugs and suddenly I felt
something happen on the lower right part of her torso. It happened quickly,
so I can't be sure what it felt like. She said there is some pain, but it's
not really bad. I wanted to go to the hospital, but she refuses, so instead
I guess I need advice on what it could be and what I should watch out for.

Her pain is located on her right side of her torso about 3 inches higher
than the level of the belly button.

At first I thought it might be a broken rib, but descriptions online say
that broken ribs are extremely painful. She says she's not in extreme pain.
She says it's only a little bit of pain when you touch it or when she
exhales after a deep breath. I found references to something called a
bruised rib, but I'm still not sure what that is.

Could it be a bruised rib? What is that? Is it something that I should
worry about? What else could it be?

If this is not a good place to ask this sort of question, please recommend
a site where I can get quick answers from real doctors.

Uclue Researcher 5 stars Answer by Researcher byrd on Sun 22 Mar 2009 - 11:04 pm UTC:

Hi Happyengineer, 

Sorry to hear about the hug that hurt. What you describe certainly sounds
like a rib injury, which is a very common injury and not usually dangerous.
Yes, broken ribs are very painful, but there are lesser injuries that might
cause the symptoms your fiance is describing, ranging from a dislocation,
to a tendon/ligament injury, to bruising, to a hairline fracture, to what
is known as a "costochondral separation," which is when a rib tears away
from the cartilage attaching it to the breastbone, or any number of other
possibilities. 

Many doctors still advise an x-ray if there's a chance of a fractured rib,
though they can often feel whether or not a rib is broken just by palpating
it, without need of an x-ray. Others will suggest a wait-and-see tack at
first, using pain and other symptoms as a guide. If symptoms worsen, then
go see a doctor; if they don't, then wait it out. Some doctors still
advocate taping up the ribs, but quite a few others now advise against it
due to the risk of pneumonia. 

For rib injuries, even if you do get a formal diagnosis, it is still
generally suggested to initially follow the RICE protocol: Rest, Ice,
Compression (or support), and Elevation. So your girlfriend should keep
quiet and avoid strenuous activity, apply ice to the site of the pain, 10
minutes on 10 off, use a wrap or support of some kind (though not tight
taping), even a tight sweater or athletic shirt, and stay generally upright
rather than lie down flat. After the first 24 hours, it is then generally
suggested to use heat instead of ice. It is also usually suggested to use
NSAIDs such as aspirin or ibuprofen to help relieve pain and any
inflammation. 

This information is largely taken from personal experience, as I have been
Red Cross First Aid certified a number of times in my past, as well as
raised two boys, taken care of two (now teenaged) grandchildren, and nursed
a spouse through a broken rib. In the case of my spouse, no x-rays were
taken, and it was advised not to use a rib belt or taping. It took about
six weeks to fully heal to the point that all vestiges of soreness were
gone. There were no lasting ill effects. 

Here are a few links to online sources with some good information and
advice about rib injuries, as well as a few personal experiences that are
similar. 

"What is a Rib Injury?"  (University Sports Medicine)
http://www.ubsportsmed.buffalo.edu/education/rib.html 

Broken or Bruised Ribs
http://www.medicinenet.com/chest_pain/page4.htm 

"Rib Injury, the Annoying Pain"
http://www.newsfinder.org/site/more/rib_injury_the_annoying_pain/ 

"Pain from getting bear hug," question/answer in Pain Management Community
on MedHelp
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/752295 

Question/Answer: " A 6' 2' 345 person gave me a bear hug to the point of
lots of pain and felt something move in my ribs. I feel pain when I touch
that area...."
JustAnswer
http://www.justanswer.com/questions/1odyt-bruised-ribs-its-two-weeks 

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eCureMe
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JustAnswer - Medical
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http://www.justanswer.com/medical 

If the symptoms do worsen, your fiance should probably go ahead and see a
health professional without delay and of course nothing stated here should
be construed as medical advice or taken as a substitute for advice from a
doctor or health professional, but is provided for your information only.

However, I do hope the information is helpful. Please let me know if you
need anything else. My best wishes to your fiance for a speedy recovery. 

Regards, 

Byrd

5 stars Accepted and rated by happyengineer on Mon 23 Mar 2009 - 12:10 am UTC:

Thanks! She read this, but the only thing I could convince her to do is
wear a tighter shirt. She wouldn't even put ice on it. But since she's
working on the computer the whole time at least she's staying upright.

Uclue Researcher Comment by Researcher byrd on Mon 23 Mar 2009 - 1:08 am UTC:

You're welcome. I'm glad you were pleased. As to your fiance, sounds like
she's doing 3 out of 4 of the RICE suggestions, resting (I'm assuming she's
not physically lifting that computer!), staying upright and using some
extra support with that tighter shirt, so that's a good start. Ultimately
she's the best judge of her own discomfort, so I'm sure if things get worse
she'll be looking for more ideas! As to those usual bear hugs, well, it
might be a good idea to try to restrain the enthusiasm just a bit in
future. All my best to you both, ~Byrd

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