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Asked by johnfrommelbourne on Thu 5 Nov 2009 - 12:22 pm UTC:

  My 75 year old mother is a very energetic very healthy woman who, like
her parents, will probably live to  over 90 years.She is looking for
something to keep her active and productive. She is a skilled knitter and
being so active wonders if she could get back into knitting machines again,
as she did when they were fairly new on the scene 50 years ago. Of course
back then although she managed quite well the machine she purchased and
used  for a few years was nothing like what would be available now, (I
assume).I.E The machines of yesteryear were basically mechanical while
today's are basically computerized, yes?

  What does the use of a modern household knitting machine entail? Does one
have to be computer literate to cope with the modern day knitting machine.
Am I right in assuming today's machines operate via a computerised card
where basically the pattern is on a card which orchestrates much of the
work while the operator( eg my Mum) would do the finishing work that the
machine could not handle.Just how much of a knitted garment( ie the
work/time involved) would a modern machine cope with??  60%, more? less?

 And with reference to all of the above would a relatively smart old lady
like my mother be able to manage such a modern day machine.

Question clarification by johnfrommelbourne on Thu 5 Nov 2009 - 12:50 pm UTC:

What I meant in following sentence from above was  "Just how much of a 
FINISHED knitted garment( ie the work/time involved) would a modern machine
cope with??  60%, more? less?

Comment by User probo on Fri 6 Nov 2009 - 6:16 am UTC:

Hi John, great to see you around again!

I thought that you were sulking on account of the thrashing that we gave
your lot in the Ashes. (Our South African imports gave us the edge.)

Regarding your question, I would advise caution because, try as we may, no
man has yet succeded in pleasing any woman for very long.

A visit to Sydney Opera House (if it's still standing and if it still
serves opera) could be helpful - although I suspect that some Aussie
entrepreneur has probably already converted it into a hotdog emporium.

The opera that I suggest you see is 'Rigoletto' by Giuseppe Verdi and,
although first produced in 1851, the message 'La donna รจ mobile' ('Woman
is fickle') has truly stood the test of time.

All the Best

Bryan

Comment by User probo on Fri 6 Nov 2009 - 12:32 pm UTC:

Well, John, 24 hours have elapsed so I can now jump in where the Real
Researchers have feared to tread ....

The Answer is YES - Of course she can!

The probability is that someone will have to show her the ropes but, after
a bit of practice, she will soon amaze you with the garments that she will
be able to produce.

Please do not under-estimate the older generation!

Bryan

Comment by User myoarin on Fri 6 Nov 2009 - 1:17 pm UTC:

Bryan still thinks Australia is about the size of the home country and that
one can just pop up to Sydney for an evening.  Melbourne does have its own
opera.

But I agree, that John's Mum should be able to use a knitting machine. 
This supplier says an eight year-old can operate it, but maybe not set
things up.   But John and his children would probably be delighted to
help.
http://www.overstock.com/Crafts-Sewing/Ultimate-Deluxe-Knitting-Machine/3344333/product.html

This seems to be an indepth site on the subject:
http://www.yarn-store.com/selecting-your-knitting-machine.html

It has the suggestion to buy a machine from a nearby source, where someone
could help answer questions.

Regards to John and Melbourne.  Just read that PM Rudd had his money on the
right horse for the Melbourne Cup.

Myo

Comment by User probo on Sat 7 Nov 2009 - 6:17 am UTC:

I bet John has followed up my suggestion and has gone to Sydney.

(Sorry, John, I hadn't realised it was such a trek.)

Hope you enjoyed the opera or whatever the Sydney Opera House is presenting
this week. 

If not Verdi then hopefully 'Highlights of the 2009 Ashes'.

Bryan

Comment by johnfrommelbourne on Sat 7 Nov 2009 - 12:11 pm UTC:

Thankyou Bryan and My oar In, much appreciated. Yes she will probably be
able to handle it based on web links info  and other insights I have been
able to glean. Yes it is god to be ale to make contributions and read
comments again. it is not quite a critically important question so if
no-one responds with much else that is Ok by me, but of course would have
preferred a more comprehensive run-down on pros and cons ofa kniting
machine if at all possible.

 I expect researchers have more  important research to do for those clients
offering bigger bucks than what I can and that is quite understandable. For
instance I see some punters offering over $100 and even $400 in  this last
week or so.

 MYO your comment that people think one can simply be in Melbourne one
morning and pop up to Sydney in the afternoon is not that far from reality
actually. People  from abroad just dont seem to understand that the country
is about the size of Europe and I think actually bigger. Recently my sister
was asked if she could pick an overseas guest up at Sydney instead of
Melbourne where she lives just the day before arrival!! The person in
question when advised the difficulties literally had not a smidgen of an
idea of what the distances involved were.
 
We had Britney Speares arrive here just  four days back and I am sure  when
she landed at Sydney the capital of one state  she was not expecting
to spend another 3.5 hours in another plane to get to  Perth, the capital
of another state, on same day,( where her first concerts were). And then
find time-wise she had not lost hardly any time as there is  now 3 hours
difference between the two states. .

Comment by User probo on Sat 7 Nov 2009 - 5:43 pm UTC:

John

I've been to the Land of Oz several times and I've often travelled between
Perth and Sydney, the only two places I ever really got to know.

I see Australia got lucky in today's Rugby Union encounter with England.

This shows that we can't win them all.

Bryan

Comment by User myoarin on Sun 8 Nov 2009 - 2:23 pm UTC:

When I was last in Australia  - in the end of the last century -  I heard
that Melbourne had become quite popular with some folks in Sydney, who
would "pop down" there for a weekend of shopping or whatever.
But may be those were just people riding high on the dot-com stock bubble.

Cancelled by johnfrommelbourne on Tue 10 Nov 2009 - 3:30 am UTC:

No response after  five or six  days is suggestive of a mismatch between
(a) ease/difficulty of procuring required information and (b)fee offered,
so  canceled question/s with that in mind.



 John From Melbourne

Comment by User probo on Tue 10 Nov 2009 - 7:53 am UTC:

John, I suggest that the problem is that nobody can predict how your Mum
will take to one of the new knitting machines: she may love it or hate it.

However, it may be that Myoarin in his infinite wisdom has taken you as far
as possible.

In the circumstances, I think it would be a kindly gesture on your part if
you were to send him a few cases of Australian Chardonnay.

Between you and me, he's no connoisseur and he'll probably slurp it down in
the mistaken belief that it's really good stuff.

All the Best

Bryan

Uclue Researcher Comment by Researcher Roger Browne (eiffel) on Tue 10 Nov 2009 - 11:24 am UTC:

Hi John,

It's certainly a reasonable question that you asked, but hard to answer.
It's not just that we don't know your Mum, it's also that there is a huge
range of knitting machines available from basic to advanced, simple to
complex.

You can get an idea of these machines by looking at some YouTube videos.
Here's a cheap, very basic, plastic handle-driven circular model, which
would certainly be easy for your Mum to use but would probably be
unsatisfying because of its limitations:

YouTube - Innovations Knitting Machine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5rkLg-I09U

More likely you'll be considering a flat bed knitting machine. I've never
seen one of these "in real life", but the Japanese make loads of these, and
this series of videos suggests that they all work pretty much the same:

YouTube - Brother Knitting Machine Set Up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNmgzFNixCA

The subsequent videos in the series are listed in the "Related Videos"
panel.

But I really wonder whether a knitting machine is worthwhile. Is your Mum
planning to mass-produce woollen items for the local market? Or would she
get more satisfaction patiently hand-knitting small quantities of
higher-quality items? Most retired people have plenty of time on their
hands.

I think if it was my Mum considering a knitting machine, I'd look for a
local knitting club with a member who would be prepared to "show her the
ropes" on their machine, so that your Mum and you can see if it's for her.

Best Regards,
eiffel

Comment by User myoarin on Tue 10 Nov 2009 - 12:29 pm UTC:

Hi John,

If your Mum wants to learn to use an advanced knitting machine, I am pretty
confident that she can.  My first impression when reading the descriptions
of what they can do  - many different kinds of patterns -  was that I would
have to see someone operate one.  Maybe the YouTube sites that Eiffel
suggests can do this.  Personally, I would want to see someone I can talk
to demonstrate.  Someone your Mother's age might be more convincing to her
about letting her think that she also could do it.

Maybe a store selling the machines could suggest such a person.  It
wouldn't have to be the same machine you or she thought was ideal from
looking at other information  - but she might just feel more confident
getting the machine she had seen demonstrated, maybe having found a new
friend for her hobby.  

Good luck  - and don't buy any more sweaters if she gets a machine,

Myo

Comment by User probo on Tue 10 Nov 2009 - 2:01 pm UTC:

John

For you mainly but also in the interests of science, I am prepared to act
as a guinea pig for some of the output from your Mum's new machine.

I take XXL in sweaters and Size 10 in shoes.

These are British sizes and I have no idea whether or not these have the
same significance in Oz.

Two or three nice sweaters and half-a-dozen pairs of socks will do nicely
for starters.

Many thanks.

Bryan

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