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Asked by timd on Tue 2 Feb 2010 - 11:37 pm UTC:
What do people want in a chiropractor? How far will they travel to see a chiropractor if they must make regular visits? Background: I'm helping a chiropractor. He offers "evidence-based treatment" programs. I want to know if that's a strong market position. Currently, all his clients live within a mile of his clinic. I want to know if I can help him draw clients from a larger radius, say 4 to 5 miles.
Request for clarification by Researcher davidsarokin on Wed 3 Feb 2010 - 2:50 am UTC:
timd, I'm not aware of any marketing studies that address the questions you're asking, but I just wanted to offer up a bit of my own thoughts on this. I think people have three key considerations when they choose a chiropractor: 1. Convenience. As probo's comment, above, notes, this is important, though I would guess travelling more than a mile wouldn't discourage too many potential clients. 2. Philosophy. People are looking for alternative sorts of doctors with a healing philosophy that resonates with them. Many chiropractors (and acupuncturists, etc) advertise in natural living type of magazines, like Pathways, in my area: http://www.pathwaysmagazineonline.com/ 3. Recommendations. Personal experience of family and friends carries a lot of weight, and if they recommend a visit to a particular chiropractor, then that can lead to new business as well. This isn't meant as an answer to your question, but I hope it's a bit helpful, just the same. David
Request for clarification by Researcher clouseau on Thu 4 Feb 2010 - 3:04 am UTC:
Hi Tim, I'm feeling a little badly after sending you here and it seems no one has picked up your question to answer. Good comments that may be helpful for sure, but I think you are looking for a bit more. So let me see what I can do: Quackwatch.org says the following: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/chirochoose.html "...Choosing a chiropractor can be difficult because the majority of chiropractors are involved in unscientific practices [1,2]. If you do decide to consult one, begin with a telephone interview during which you explore the chiropractor's attitudes and practice patterns. Positive Signs Try to find a chiropractor whose practice is limited to conservative treatment of back pain and other musculoskeletal problems. Ask your medical doctor for the names of any who fit this description and appear to be trustworthy. Membership in the National Association for Chiropractic Medicine or the Canadian Academy of Manipulative Therapists (CAMT) is a very good sign, but the number of chiropractors who belong to these groups is small. CAMT's "orthopractic guidelines" describe a science-based approach to manipulative therapy. In addition to manual manipulation or stretching of tight muscles or joints, science-based chiropractors commonly use heat or ice packs, ultrasound treatment, and other modalities similar to those of physical therapists. They may also recommend a home exercise program. For most conditions that chiropractic care can help, significant improvement should occur within a few visits. Negative Signs Avoid chiropractors who advertise about "danger signals that indicate the need for chiropractic care," make claims about curing diseases, try to get patients to sign contracts for lengthy treatment, promote regular "preventive" adjustments, use scare tactics, or disparage scientific medical treatment or preventive measures such as immunization or fluoridation. Avoid chiropractors who purport to diagnose or treat "subluxations," who have waiting room literature promoting "nerve interference" as an underlying cause of disease, or who post charts or distribute literature suggesting that chiropractic might help nearly every type of health problem. Avoid any chiropractor who routinely performs or orders x-ray examinations of all patients. Most patients who consult a chiropractor do not need them. Be especially wary of full-spine x-ray examinations. This practice has doubtful diagnostic value and involves a large amount of radiation. Avoid chiropractors who "prescribe" dietary supplements, homeopathic products, or herbal products for the treatment of disease or who sell any of these products in their offices. For dietary advice, the best sources are physicians and registered dietitians..." The author, Stephen Barrett, MD, continues on a bit. I think I agree that many people view chiropractic as "not really a doctor". Personally, I have had both good and bad chiropractic experiences so I shall agree with the need to qualify. There is a site that has an element of spam to it, but also a bit of good information called, believe it or not, choosingachripractor.com: http://www.choosingachiropractor.com/ "...10 Things Every Consumer Should Know Before Choosing a Chiropractor Here are a list of pointers on how to find a good chiropractor (and what to avoid) 1. Wellness or maintenance treatment. This is a good way for a chiropractor to make extra money, and a common reason many medical doctors don't refer to chiropractors. There is no scientific evidence that when you feel good chiropractic treatment can prevent or maintain anything. If you feel good and your chiropractor still wants to see you, get a second opinion before continuing care. 2. Questionable diagnostics. If your chiropractor tests your muscles, notes they are weak, and diagnoses an internal problem, the DC should refer you to an internist. On the other hand, if you have weak muscles because you are out of shape, a good chiropractor will refer you to a therapist, a gym, or design a strengthening program for you. If your muscles are weak due to a serious disease, nerve problem or serious structural problem, your DC should refer you for a second opinion with a neurologist or orthopedist. Muscle testing alone should not be the reason your chiropractor wants to continue to treat you if there is no pain. 3. Silly marketing gimmicks. Health fairs, swap meets, and shopping malls often have chiropractors giving free spinal examinations. There are a variety of gimmicks designed to procure you as a patient. The most common one is a postural analysis. If you have poor posture and no pain, a chiropractor should not want to manipulate you, but instead should design a workout or exercise program for you, or refer you to a therapist or trainer for such a program. 4. Treating areas that don't hurt. When you receive treatment, three things happen: You get better, you get worse, or you stay the same. If you feel good, only two things can occur: You stay the same or you get worse. If you go to a chiropractor with lower back pain, the DC should not manipulate your neck unless you also have a neck problem. There is no evidence that performing neck manipulation can help your lower back or vice versa. If your chiropractor insists on manipulating areas that don't hurt, get a second opinion before continuing care. 5. Excessive supplementation. Chiropractors take many nutrition classes in school. Beware of any chiropractor who says his vitamins are the only ones that work. Beware of any chiropractor that wants to sell you large amounts of supplements without referring you to a retailer or health-food store for comparable products at a considerably lower cost. 6. Excessive x-rays. Beware of any chiropractor who uses x-rays for any reason other than to rule out a fracture, dislocation, or bone disease. X-rays should only be taken if you have sustained a recent traumatic injury and are in considerable pain and discomfort; are undergoing a history and examination indicate a possible bone disease such as arthritis; or have long-standing pain in an area that has not responded or resolved with care. No person is perfectly symmetrical; no one's spine is perfectly straight and balanced. If you are pain-free and your chiropractor wants to continue treatment because of what an x-ray shows, get a second opinion before you continue care. 7. Excessive visits. When a chiropractor treats you, you should feel better. It is not normal to be worse after treatment. Depending on the nature and extent of your problem, after a few visits you should notice considerable improvement. After one to four weeks, your pain should be reduced by 40-50 percent, depending on how severe and how extensive your original problem. Beware of any chiropractor who recommends a three, six or 12-month treatment plan based on your first or second visit. 8. Unwillingness to work with other professionals. If you are not getting relief, you should not have to ask for a referral; your chiropractor should have already recommended one for you. 9: Pre-payment for services that have yet to be performed. Beware of chiropractors who ask you to pay "up-front" for treatment. Most chiropractors will use the analogy of the dentist and braces. This is a questionable procedure and should be avoided at all cost. 10: The "pinched nerve" theory: Beware of chiropractors who claim that your problem is due to a pinched nerve. Although some conditions may indeed result from a pinched (compressed) nerve, a competent chiropractor should be able to determine if your health problem is due to other underlying causes. The cause of a your problem may be due to nerve, muscle, ligament, disc, nutritional, hormonal, environmental challenges. Here is one more tip you should know: 11: Say NO to NOOPE (No Out of Pocket Expense): It is illegal for any physician to not charge a patient a deductible. If a chiropractor offers to waive the deductible that is a RED FLAG and I would advise you to either stop going and/or to inform your insurance company. This is a serious violation and although offering a savings for the patient, is likely to get the doctor in hot water. This is sure sign of the integrity and honesty of the chiropractor..." More on this site. And you can find numerous place that profess to help you make a wise decision: The 11 Questions You MUST Ask BEFORE Choosing A Chiropractor! http://www.endpainforever.com/south_bay_hermosa_redondo_manhattan_beach_chiropractor_11_questions.htm How To Select The Best Chiropractor http://www.spine-health.com/treatment/chiropractic/how-select-best-chiropractor How to choose a chiropractor that's perfect for you http://www.nbcactionnews.com/content/health/story/How-to-choose-a-chiropractor-thats-perfect-for-you/8adAu3B2hkq50uSNgwhTWw.cspx This one is interesting as it refers to reviews on Angie's List. Hmmm. I could find dozen's and dozens of sites like the above for you, so let's switch gears a bit. Well, Angie's List seemed like a great place to try so I looked for similar. It seems people post on Yelp in their local areas looking for local recommendations. http://www.yelp.com/topic/san-jose-need-recommendation-for-a-good-chiropractor Seems a little like cars and home audio - people recommend the one they have. But, with more than one recommendation to one chiropractor, I might look into that practitioner a little farther if it were me. Here's a Homeowner's Association chat board looking for recommendations: http://www.broadlandshoa.org/hoaforum/showthread.php?p=129868 Insider Pages: http://www.insiderpages.com/b/3710501734 There are quite a few like this. Seems like a little viral, guerilla marketing might pay off getting the name out by replying to some like these in your chiropractor's local area and surrounds. The why really seems to come down to proximity and recommendation. And special techniques if the consumer is aware of something particular they seek. Not much more I could find here. How far do they travel? Another tough question but I was able to find: http://www.centrachiropractic.com/faq.html Why Do People Travel Large Distances to See You? Although individuals have many choices for chiropractic health care services and many are just down the street from their home, many choose to travel 100+ miles to utilize the effectiveness of Applied Kinesiology and the benefits it has to offer. Not all chiropractic techniques are equal. Hmm, so a choice to travel could be made on the techniques offered. And here they claim 100 miles! Santiago Clinic claims even greater distances: http://www.dailyrecord.com/print/article/20100120/PTW12/100118078/Scarano-joins-Santiago-Chiropractic-team Describe your most unusual patient, job or work experience. The most unusual and heartening experience that I have witnessed at Santiago Chiropractic thus far is seeing patients coming into the office that have traveled from as far as the Bronx, Pennsylvania and even California just to receive a treatment at our office. When a patient has that kind of loyalty, dedication and faith in what you do, to be willing to travel such a great distance for care, it really makes you feel that you are doing something special. Now, Chiropractic Location Specialists look at the effective coverage area of a chiropractor this way: http://www.locusmap.com/company/story.php "...The distance from the practice site is the most prominent demographic factor (Figure 1). We know that two thirds of all patients from a practice reside in a fairly tight zone around your practice site. Density of the population will determine the size of this practice zone. Surprisingly enough, 25 percent of your patients give you 80 percent of your practice revenue. The American Chiropractic Association indicate the average chiropractic patient is 40.2 years old; 56 percent are female; and 50 percent are college graduates. Additionally, 83 percent are white, 11 percent are Hispanic and 4 percent are black. How does one find this chiropractic ideal population profile? Data can be sorted by county, zip and postal carrier routes. Using these sorting methods can help you find a high potential practice site with the highest "ideal chiropractic population profile." Figure 2: The denser the population, the smaller the practice zone. How large of a radius around your dream location should you study? In a small town surrounded by low population, 25 miles is an acceptable radius, but in a large cosmopolitan city with a high density population a radius of 1.5 miles is ideal. The more usual suburban practice radius is three miles. Ideally your office should be located in an area in which you wish to live. It should be in a growing, active trade area with other health professionals. The people in your community should have a favorable attitude toward chiropractic and there should be no serious geographical obstacles to block patients from reaching your office..." And here is an interesting article on how to find new patients using Google Adwords: Chiropractic Marketing Tip – Gets You New Patients For 1 Cent Each http://googleblogsite.info/chiropractic-marketing-tip-gets-you-new-patients-for-1-cent-each/ So, Tim, there is a bit of information I hope you find helpful. If so, I'd be happy to post as an answer. If not, let us all know what misses the mark and perhaps I or another researcher here at Uclue can find more. Best, --clouseau=-
Comment by timd on Thu 4 Feb 2010 - 4:00 am UTC:
Hi clouseau, you are so generous. I'm really grateful for the looking you've done.
Comment by User probo on Thu 4 Feb 2010 - 7:53 am UTC:
Personally, I am very sceptical about Google Adwords. It sounds too good to be true. Caveat Emptor!
Comment by Researcher Roger Browne (eiffel) on Thu 4 Feb 2010 - 10:29 am UTC:
An acquaintance of mine is a chiropractor (in the UK). His patients mostly come from a ten-mile radius, although some loyal patients continue to visit him even after they have moved away from the area. I think the distance that patients are prepared to travel isn't limited by how far away the chiropractor is, but by whether there are other chiropractors closer by. In other words, the "catchment area" will be roughly half the distance to the nearest chiropractor plus a bit of overlap. My acquaintance gains his clients in three main ways. Most come through personal recommendation from other clients. Next are those who are recruited at the local "natural health fairs". Finally he has some printed brochures which he leaves at the local health food shop and other similar places. As for Google AdWords, I would think it's only worthwhile placing ads on a very closely targeted search term (e.g. if you live in Grimsby, place the ads on the search results for "grimsby chiropractor" and nothing else). The AdWords algorithms will soon raise the price per click, commensurate with the precise targeting, but this could still be worthwhile because each new client has the possibility of becoming a long-term repeat customer.
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Comment by User probo on Wed 3 Feb 2010 - 1:38 am UTC: