Question: Can anyone solve this cryptic Crossword Clue?

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probo 

Customer

 10 Aug 2012 08:23 UTCFri 10 Aug 2012 - 8:23 am UTC 

Singer in short time arrives in capital city (7)

 

myoarin 

User

 10 Aug 2012 09:44 UTCFri 10 Aug 2012 - 9:44 am UTC 

Any letters in the word?

Here is a list of capital cities.:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_capitals

 

probo 

Customer

 10 Aug 2012 10:57 UTCFri 10 Aug 2012 - 10:57 am UTC 

Many thanks, Myo, the List of Capitals is potentially very useful.

Unfortunately, there are no letters in the word.

 

pinkfreud 

Researcher

 10 Aug 2012 22:51 UTCFri 10 Aug 2012 - 10:51 pm UTC 

Here's my first thought:

BELFAST (a capital city)

My reasoning:

Singer (Bel, referring to Bel Morrison)
In short time (fast)

If I have a second thought, I'll surely let you know.

 

probo 

Customer

 11 Aug 2012 05:40 UTCSat 11 Aug 2012 - 5:40 am UTC 

Hi Pinky

Many thanks.

It's great seeing you again!

I do like your reasoning and I believe that you are working on the right lines BUT ...

The required solution has 7 letters and BELFAST falls short.

I do hope that you will persevere.

All the best

Bryan

 

fp 

User

 11 Aug 2012 05:51 UTCSat 11 Aug 2012 - 5:51 am UTC 

Why would "Belfast" fall short?

 

probo 

Customer

 11 Aug 2012 07:59 UTCSat 11 Aug 2012 - 7:59 am UTC 

Hi fp - Long Time No See!

Having only just got up this morning, I used Excel to count the number of letters in BLFST and it reported that it had only 5 letters.

I have now checked the answer on my trusty old Slide Rule and it confirms that BLFST does indeed have only 5 letters.

QED

Bryan

 

myoarin 

User

 11 Aug 2012 09:23 UTCSat 11 Aug 2012 - 9:23 am UTC 

It is indeed good to see Pinkie here again, and she is always right, nicht wahr?

There are also a couple of other singers with Bel as a first name, plus possibly "bel canto" as the clue.

For those too young to remember what a slide rule is: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slide_rule

I'm not sure how Bryan counted letters with his, perhaps just using those he found that labeled the different scales.  See the table under "other operations".

 

ribuck 

User

 11 Aug 2012 10:19 UTCSat 11 Aug 2012 - 10:19 am UTC 

When a clue says "in", I like to find the word truly enclosed within the outer word.

However, I can't find any good singers named "Elf", "Elfa", "Fas" etc., so I guess "Bel" is it!

What is "Bel" short for? It would be funny if it was short for "Belfast".

 

myoarin 

User

 11 Aug 2012 10:47 UTCSat 11 Aug 2012 - 10:47 am UTC 

Here are some names for which Bel is short: 
http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Bel

For a male, perhaps short for Bello, a common name for dogs where I live ("bellen" the German word for "bark").

Belfast is from the Gaelic, I have now discovered.

 

Phil Answerfinder 

Researcher

 11 Aug 2012 11:13 UTCSat 11 Aug 2012 - 11:13 am UTC 

Soprano?
in short time: soon
arrives: ar
capital [of] city: p
I'll bend any word to make try and fit!

 

probo 

Customer

 11 Aug 2012 13:17 UTCSat 11 Aug 2012 - 1:17 pm UTC 

Many thanks to One and All.

According to Myo's list, Bel could be short for Belinda which takes us to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belinda_Carlisle

I have counted the letters in Belinda but I am now having my calculations checked - just to be sure.

 

myoarin 

User

 11 Aug 2012 13:18 UTCSat 11 Aug 2012 - 1:18 pm UTC 

Paris?   PAR    or AR = arrive and just P

 

probo 

Customer

 11 Aug 2012 17:39 UTCSat 11 Aug 2012 - 5:39 pm UTC 

Well, if Short Time = MIN for Minute;

And AR is short for Arrives

And YO is short for Tokyo

Can anyone now piece it all together for the name of a great singer?

Please do remember it's a 7 letter word.

 

ribuck 

User

 11 Aug 2012 21:27 UTCSat 11 Aug 2012 - 9:27 pm UTC 

Probo I think you're on the right track for the answer, but perhaps you misread the clue:

"Singer with paddle in dihydrogen monoxide"

 

myoarin 

User

 11 Aug 2012 22:29 UTCSat 11 Aug 2012 - 10:29 pm UTC 

"Who can explain it?
Who can tell you why?
Fools give you reasons,
Wise men never try."

 

probo 

Customer

 12 Aug 2012 06:38 UTCSun 12 Aug 2012 - 6:38 am UTC 

Many thanks Ribuck

I'm no chemist but I have always been led to believe that dihydrogen monoxide is highly toxic and should be avoided at all costs. Hence my caution.

Also, many thanks Myoarin

I never knew that you were a student of Rodgers & Hammerstein. Or maybe it's the lovely Mitzi Gaynor who has caught your fancy?

Of course, you may know her better as Francesca Marlene de Czanyi von Gerber. She certainly sounds a bit of a furriner to me.

 

myoarin 

User

 12 Aug 2012 08:13 UTCSun 12 Aug 2012 - 8:13 am UTC 

Some enchanted evening,
You may hear me singing,
You may hear me singing,
...
And all through your dreams,
I still will be singing,
But I won't hear your screams.

 

probo 

Customer

 13 Aug 2012 05:50 UTCMon 13 Aug 2012 - 5:50 am UTC 

Very many thanks, Myoarin

However, I'm sure that your Comment would be greatly improved if we could actually hear you singing. For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqBtME2kXUY&feature=related

Please work on it and help to make the world a much happier place.

Bryan

 

myoarin 

User

 13 Aug 2012 15:19 UTCMon 13 Aug 2012 - 3:19 pm UTC 

I am sure the world will be happier if I don't.

What is the 7 letter word?

 

probo 

Customer

 14 Aug 2012 07:34 UTCTue 14 Aug 2012 - 7:34 am UTC 

Hi again Myo

Much to my lasting regret, I am not a Researcher just a mere Common Tator and consequently I am not empowered to provide Answers - not even to my own Questions.

However, I can certainly speculate about which Great Singer could be referred to.

There's Elvis (PRESLEY) of course but, as our target evidently has some nautical interests, I rather favour Paul ROBESON who was famously involved with the 1936 movie version of Jerome Kern and Oscar Hammerstein's 'Show Boat':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh9WayN7R-s

(Nevertheless, I suspect that you are far too young to have even heard of Paul Robeson.)

Alternatively, you may consult with Quezi where the Great Singer's name is certainly mentioned:

http://quezi.com/

Good Luck!

Bryan

 

fp 

User

 14 Aug 2012 08:01 UTCTue 14 Aug 2012 - 8:01 am UTC 

I wonder if the newspaper in question will publish (or has already published) the solution in one of its next issues.

 

myoarin 

User

 14 Aug 2012 11:44 UTCTue 14 Aug 2012 - 11:44 am UTC 

Bryan, if you had ever heard me sing "Old Man River", you would know that I have heard of Paul Robeson and seen the movie.  NO, that also won't go on Youtube.

 

montecristo 

User

 14 Aug 2012 22:41 UTCTue 14 Aug 2012 - 10:41 pm UTC 

This question should only have been posted after the answer was published, to avoid causing so much pain and frustration to so many.

 

myoarin 

User

 15 Aug 2012 15:17 UTCWed 15 Aug 2012 - 3:17 pm UTC 

The only pain and frustration is that Bryan now must know the answer and is too chagrined to admit that he didn't find it by himself.

 

David Sarokin 

Researcher

 19 Aug 2012 21:38 UTCSun 19 Aug 2012 - 9:38 pm UTC 

I've been away for a few weeks, and now that I'm catching up, I'm confused.

Didn't Pink find the solution? And if so, what's the subsequent hubbub all about?

Yours, in perplexity...

David

 

probo 

Customer

 20 Aug 2012 05:52 UTCMon 20 Aug 2012 - 5:52 am UTC 

David, so you've been 'away for a few weeks' have you?

Technically, this is known as 'Absence Without Leave' - or AWOL for short.

Sadly, the Pink Lady did not find the correct solution and I suspect that she may have also gone AWOL.

Now, I suspect that you probably went AWOL together - probably to the Olympics?

In fact, I thought I saw you both on TV - sitting in the Royal Box.

I am very disappointed that, although you were both in the UK, neither of you bothered to look me up.

Regretfully, this Question still remains answerless.

Please demonstrate your skills as a Researcher and provide the correct Answer.

As a further clue, the great singer closely resembles Dick Van Dyke - as he is now, not like he was when he appeared in 'Mary Poppins'.

Yours, also in perplexity ....

Bryan

 

Roger Browne 

Researcher

 20 Aug 2012 11:42 UTCMon 20 Aug 2012 - 11:42 am UTC 

A short time is an INSTANT.
A singer in short time is STAN.
Stan arrives in ("is at the entry to") a capital city: STANLEY
Stanley is the capital city of the Falkland Islands.

Stan who? I don't know any Stans who resemble Dick Van Dyke.

 

probo 

Customer

 20 Aug 2012 12:57 UTCMon 20 Aug 2012 - 12:57 pm UTC 

Many thanks, Roger, but - sorry - you have also got it wrong.

As far as a singer named Stan is concerned, there was, of course, Stanley Holloway who appeared in 'My Fair Lady' as Eliza's dad and sang: "With a Little Bit of Luck" and "Get Me to the Church on Time"

Actually, I did provide further clues to the correct solution on 11th August, above:

QUOTE:

Well, if Short Time = MIN for Minute;

And AR is short for Arrives

And YO is short for Tokyo

Can anyone now piece it all together for the name of a great singer?

Please do remember it's a 7 letter word.

UNQUOTE

And please remember that he is also a Dick Van Dyke look-alike:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001813/

Bryan

 

Roger Browne 

Researcher

 20 Aug 2012 13:08 UTCMon 20 Aug 2012 - 1:08 pm UTC 

Indeed! Ribuck did propose "MY OAR IN" a few days ago, but had already used it as his answer to the clue "Singer with paddle in dihydrogen monoxide".

As for Myo being a Dick Van Dyke lookalike, I guess they do both have grey hair. But as I haven't seen Myo dance, nor heard his mockney accent, I can't comment further...

 

probo 

Customer

 20 Aug 2012 13:18 UTCMon 20 Aug 2012 - 1:18 pm UTC 

Roger

Ribuck did indeed comment intriguingly some time ago but, alas, he is not a Real Researcher, is he?

Consequently, he could not post an Answer.

I hereby recommend his promotion which, in my view, is sadly overdue.

Bryan

 

Uclue Admin 

 20 Aug 2012 13:31 UTCMon 20 Aug 2012 - 1:31 pm UTC 

Bryan,

Ribuck has informed us that he does not have a PayPal account, and therefore would not be eligible to become a Uclue Researcher (even if we were recruiting). Nor does he have a bank account, apparently on account of something he calls "chuggers".

If ribuck has provided the answer that you seek, then this one is a freebie for you!

 

probo 

Customer

 20 Aug 2012 14:27 UTCMon 20 Aug 2012 - 2:27 pm UTC 

Thank you Admin.

I shall now close this Question.

Bryan

 

probo 

Cancelled

 20 Aug 2012 14:28 UTCMon 20 Aug 2012 - 2:28 pm UTC 

Many thanks to everyone!

 

myoarin 

User

 20 Aug 2012 16:22 UTCMon 20 Aug 2012 - 4:22 pm UTC 

"Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum,
Fifteen men on a dead man's chest.
..."

(I always assumed that they were stacked up on his sea chest, but maybe they crushed his ribcage.)

I have been AWOL for a couple of days.

As explained somewhere else by Ribuck or his alter ego, dihydrogen monoxide is not poisonous.

 

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