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Question: Amangani in Europe

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montecristo 

Customer

 9 Mar 2017 01:06 UTCThu 9 Mar 2017 - 1:06 am UTC 

What is a hotel like the Amangani in Wyoming (i.e. a high quality hotel, in the middle of nowhere, where the activities are nature centric), in Europe. Not UK, FR, IT, ES, IE.

There may not be such a hotel, given how populated the European countries with good hotels are.

 

myoarin 

User

 9 Mar 2017 13:45 UTCThu 9 Mar 2017 - 1:45 pm UTC 

Maybe some help for a Researcher could be this website: 
https://www.mrandmrssmith.com/destinations/europe

The numbers on the map are the number of hotels shown on the larger map that opens, which will show H for individual hotels and a again numbers for places with more hotels. 
Click on the image on the pop-up for a hotel and get more information. 

Good luck,  Myo

 

David Sarokin 

Researcher

 9 Mar 2017 14:35 UTCThu 9 Mar 2017 - 2:35 pm UTC 

Maybe:

http://www.littlegreenbay.com/hotel/?lang=en
Little Green Bay, Hvar, Croatia

 

montecristo 

Customer

 9 Mar 2017 15:50 UTCThu 9 Mar 2017 - 3:50 pm UTC 

Little Green Bay is not a bad recommendation but it is not on the same level of quality (ranked about 30th in that small island) or nature-ness (it is mainly a hotel for sitting by the beach).

 

Roger Browne 

Researcher

 9 Mar 2017 21:30 UTCThu 9 Mar 2017 - 9:30 pm UTC 

montecristo,

What about Sweden's Ice Hotel?
http://www.icehotel.com/

"A hotel and art exhibition made of ice from the river Torne, each year reincarnated in a brand new design. A place to discover silence, northern lights, glistening snow clad forests, reindeer, cloudberries, kettle coffee and much more."

The hotel is located in a small village 200km north of the Arctic Circle, which by European standards is "the middle of nowhere".

Roger.

 

David Sarokin 

Researcher

 9 Mar 2017 21:31 UTCThu 9 Mar 2017 - 9:31 pm UTC 

 

montecristo 

Customer

 9 Mar 2017 21:37 UTCThu 9 Mar 2017 - 9:37 pm UTC 

The ice hotel is an interesting choice. I've been and the experience there is not a nature/outdoorsy one, becuse it's dark 24/7 and it's -30 celsius.

The Amangani has wildlife, which European hotels probably won't because we don't have wolves, bears, moose, bison, etc running around.

 

montecristo 

Customer

 9 Mar 2017 21:44 UTCThu 9 Mar 2017 - 9:44 pm UTC 

It turns out we do still have a few bison and bear: http://www.theecologist.org/green_green_living/out_and_about/834643/top_10european_wildlife_destinations.html

I realise this question is a bit 'finger in the air', I am just curious about interesting suggestions.

 

Roger Browne 

Researcher

 9 Mar 2017 23:03 UTCThu 9 Mar 2017 - 11:03 pm UTC 

Many of the more remote locations are northerly, therefore cold and dark at this time of year, but some are not as far north as the ice hotels. And some feature wildlife (of a sort), although in Europe the idea of "nature" more often means coastlines, mountains and forests.

How about Pädaste Manor in Estonia: "Our shoreline gives way to astonishing views of the bay with its islets and untouched coastland. A variety of grasses, ferns, wild flowers, berries, brushes, orchids, pine, birch and our ‘national’ tree the juniper, paint the landscape of Pädaste Bay. The park and shoreline form part of a nature protection zone which is well known for its biodiversity. It is the natural habitat to 23 species of rare orchids. Birdlife is of particular interest since Pädaste bay is a favorite stopover location for migratory birds as geese, cranes, ducks and swans. Three breeding couples of the rare and majestic sea eagle nest nearby, the nightingale takes center stage in the evenings of early June. The park is home to owls, woodpeckers, nesting swallows, tree-nesting ducks, squirrels and bats. Deer, wild boar and moose inhabit the surrounding forest. They occasionally can be seen crossing into the park, specially during cold winters."
http://www.padaste.ee/front-page/
http://www.padaste.ee/manor/park-and-grounds/

Hotel Budir, on a peninsular two hours drive from Rekjavik in Iceland, promises seals and icelandic ponies plus occasional whale sightings:
https://www.i-escape.com/hotel-budir

The Treehotel in Harads, Sweden, is based around treehouses that are much more stylish and classy than the usual treehouse hotels. The only winter wildlife activity is eagle spotting, but during summer and autumn they advertise bear spotting, elk calling, and the chance to see foxes, martens, raccoon dogs, forest birds and breeding golden eagles. In winter they also arrange horse-pulled high-speed skiing. Who even knew that was a thing?
http://www.treehotel.se/en/

The WhitePod "Eco-Luxury Hotel and Alpine Experience" in Monthey, Switzerland, is more about scenery than wildlife. The pods are at an altitude of 1400m (4600ft), 20 minutes walk from reception. "Upon check-in, you will be given a backpack, a map, a headlight, snowshoes and walking sticks to help you get to your pod."
https://www.whitepod.com/?lang=en

If you're looking for someplace warmer, you could consider the Zagorohoria villages in Epirus, Greece, in the Pindus Range and near the dramatic Vikos Gorge. According to Wikipedia, "Large breeding colonies of herons, spoonbills, egrets, and pelicans fish the cool waters of the mountain lakes of the Pindus Mountain Conifer and Broadleaf Mixed Forests ecoregion. This is one of the few areas in Europe where the rare Dalmatian pelican can be found. Wolves, jackals, and bears are found in the forests."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pindus
The Pindus Range covers quite a large area, and there are quite a few luxury boutique hotels throughout it. A definite candidate would be the Aristi Mountain Resort:
http://www.slh.com/hotels/aristi-mountain-resort/

Finally, if you can stretch your definition of "Europe" to include Turkey, and aren't put off by the geopolitical situation there, that would open up some further warm-weather possibilities.

 

David Sarokin 

Researcher

 10 Mar 2017 04:34 UTCFri 10 Mar 2017 - 4:34 am UTC 

One more possibility:

http://www.equitours.com/horseback-riding/homoki-lodge/
The Homoki Lodge in Hungary offers fantastic riding opportunities in a setting celebrating the rich uniqueness of the area’s culture, where equestrian traditions run deep. With options to stay in luxury yurts and ride Hungarian warmbloods through the southern puszta, the experiences echo traditional practices in totally modern and upgraded ways....

 

myoarin 

User

 10 Mar 2017 17:10 UTCFri 10 Mar 2017 - 5:10 pm UTC 

I think Montecristo is right: 
"There may not be such a hotel, given how populated the European countries with good hotels are." 

There are some really upmarket hotels in Europe (€300 and more/night/person) that offer top hotel amenities, and a few are in very attractive natural surroundings, whereby "nature centric" activities seem to concentrate on skiing.  Fair enough, a lot of rich people ski and are old enough not to be so interested in apres ski activity.  Wealthy watersport people have their own yacht or rent one; don't need fancy accommodations. 

Between the shore and the mountains, Europe is too well settled to have much pristine nature, and where it may exist, a fancy hotel cannot be built, and what would people do there?  Play golf?  Hardly counts as nature centric.  Horseback riding?  The offers on David's equitours link don't appear to brag about hotel amenities.

Just one man's opinion,  Myo

 

David Sarokin 

Researcher

 10 Mar 2017 17:39 UTCFri 10 Mar 2017 - 5:39 pm UTC 

Ahh, myo, you have a point, of course. But seriously, now, who could resist the luxurious allure of 'warmbloods through the southern puszta'?

 

myoarin 

User

 10 Mar 2017 20:18 UTCFri 10 Mar 2017 - 8:18 pm UTC 

Oh, David, I agree, if it hadn't been 49 years since I last rode a horse, and then a very tame one. 
But just now I thought of my cycling friends, a group traveling to a good hotel, from which they made one day tours each day, returning for a good French or Belgium dinner. 
How good was "good", however, and cyclists tend to be rather frugal. 
Besides, that kind of group vacation doesn't offer the pizzazz of going to a really fancy place where one can meet and compete on the slope or in conversation or for buying the wine with persons whose names one possibly could drop, not to mention being able to mention that one had spent a week skiing in USA.  "Oh, where?"  "Just a little boutique hotel near Jackson Hole.  Very nice, 'copter to the best slopes, ...."

 

montecristo 

Customer

 13 Mar 2017 23:13 UTCMon 13 Mar 2017 - 11:13 pm UTC 

Good answers all round, although what I want doesn't seem to exist in Europe - the places with nature don't have top hotels, and vice versa.

Roger, I'll take your answer, not least because it's a collector's item since you steer clear of my boring business questions.

 

Roger Browne 

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 14 Mar 2017 04:13 UTCTue 14 Mar 2017 - 4:13 am UTC 

Thanks montecristo.

I steer clear of your business questions because I know that Bobbie, David and JD can do a better job of them than I could.

And I'm steering clear of your "wonky shower glass" question because it's what Sir Humphrey would have called "a very courageous design choice", and I can't find photos from anyone else who's been courageous enough to cut their bathroom glass wonky :)

Best Regards,
Roger

 

montecristo 

Customer

 14 Mar 2017 04:55 UTCTue 14 Mar 2017 - 4:55 am UTC 

 

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